tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7869202163671423196.post3441693510195996327..comments2023-11-27T22:34:24.079-08:00Comments on SHOCK AND AWE: Facts-ism versus Fascism (The King of Ambrosia, pt 2)SIMON REYNOLDShttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01282478701882900354noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7869202163671423196.post-51271949825125420002020-03-31T20:57:53.051-07:002020-03-31T20:57:53.051-07:00Maybe there´s something to both interpretations. F...Maybe there´s something to both interpretations. Fighting addiction, in my case, smoking :D (I´m not such a square, i´ve tried other drugs but my real addiction was cigarettes) was the mother of all inner battles. And as I said regarding Bowie and Christiane F, I once read something about how heroin provides a sense of purpose to addicts so I link feelings of role-lessness and lack of identity with drugs.<br /><br />BTW I think I didn´t explain well my "Breaking the Waves" idea, lets say that I think there must be many cases in real life where a girl or a boy from a small, rural, religious community got carried away by music, radio, Tv, Bowie etc. and that led to a path of perdition. I´m a liberal, I like Bowie and pop music and culture and I am actually kinda antireligious. But shit happens, and Bowie could have played the role of a siren luring people to shipwreck. Like his music in movies. "I´m a blackstar" he said. And he also said he felt he didn´t had an identity. And drugs or fascistic politics can come in to fill the identity gap.<br /><br />Something I remember about Fight Club, is that at some point the club was like a fascist organization. With a dear leader, followers subjected to abuse, their whole life belonging to the club etc. Fernando Ramírez Ruizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09717061971582028790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7869202163671423196.post-67666964875166327762020-03-31T18:20:54.846-07:002020-03-31T18:20:54.846-07:00sorry i misread your comment, read 'jojo' ...sorry i misread your comment, read 'jojo' as joker!<br /><br />Return of Kings is that 'new masculinism' web board, advice to beta males on how to become an alpha male<br /><br />i don't see the Fight Club as drug addiction analogy i must say - it's much more to do with men feeling impotent and role-less in the new age of metrosexuality and looking for some kind of warrior male identity as a bulwark against this insidious decadence eroding their spirit from within (c.f. robert bly's book Iron Man and the Men's Movement which was early 90s so preceded the Palunik book which came out 96). Nietzche's "in times of peace the warlike man attacks himself" springs to mind - especially when the lead character is seen punching himself in the face later on, via his delusional alter ego Tyler Durden.SIMON REYNOLDShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01282478701882900354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7869202163671423196.post-4445838277179347432020-03-31T16:42:57.956-07:002020-03-31T16:42:57.956-07:00Joker? glam? your kiddin me! I don´t know what Ret...Joker? glam? your kiddin me! I don´t know what Return of kings is but when I saw Fight Club my never humble opinion was that it was an obvious metaphor for drug adiction.Fernando Ramírez Ruizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09717061971582028790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7869202163671423196.post-63257471864502398772020-03-27T11:42:37.214-07:002020-03-27T11:42:37.214-07:00ah i didn't realise there was a glam undertone...ah i didn't realise there was a glam undertone to Joker (which I still haven't seen). very appropriate. Return of Kings / Fight Club etc as craving for one's "birthright" of heroism. SIMON REYNOLDShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01282478701882900354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7869202163671423196.post-64402653555855130002020-03-26T22:13:27.592-07:002020-03-26T22:13:27.592-07:00Oh, and i forgot, jojo dances to "Heroes"...Oh, and i forgot, jojo dances to "Heroes"Fernando Ramírez Ruizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09717061971582028790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7869202163671423196.post-12246688759246858152020-03-26T22:11:17.687-07:002020-03-26T22:11:17.687-07:00basement not vasement duhbasement not vasement duhFernando Ramírez Ruizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09717061971582028790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7869202163671423196.post-91914824668928901192020-03-26T22:09:43.240-07:002020-03-26T22:09:43.240-07:00I have noticed David Bowie´s music has appeared in...I have noticed David Bowie´s music has appeared in film as the soundtrack to fallin in the grip of a destructive power. Christian F, a german movie of 79 or 80, set a few years earlier about a 14 year old girl who becomes a junkie, based on a true story, almost doubles as a "Berlin period Bowie music" movie, the girl actually first tried heroin at a Bowie concert, and he makes an appearance. I read once that heroin provides a sense of purpose and structure to the adicts life.<br /><br />Then there is "Breaking the Waves" from Lars Von Trier in the nineties but set in a scottish town in the early seventies, were a woman "listens to god" and there is a very explicit theme about listening versus reading God´s word. The woman ultimately dies obbeying her head voices and her lover that push her to prostitution. In both movies Bowies songs are like siren songs I´d say. In Breaking the Waves it´s only one song, Life in Mars, and it´s only in one of the versions of the movie, the original i think.<br /><br />And now there is jojo rabbit where adultness and authoritarianism/fascism/nazism are likened, all of it, the adultness and the rest, viewed negatively. But not by the kids (not before everything falls apart), for whom joining the nazi youth is the rite of passage to manhood. Makes me think of the alt right who they say are a bunch of adults living in their parents vasement who don´t have girlfriends or sex. Fernando Ramírez Ruizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09717061971582028790noreply@blogger.com